Need your .223 load advice.

[jhelmuth]

My load is
25 grains varget
69 smk seated .002 off the lands
wolf primer
lake city brass

Its a solid half moa out to 300, I havent had a chance to shoot any farther yet.

I still need to test the 68 grain BTHP and 75 grain BTHP from hornady, I have 200 of each I think I can make something work.


You'll find very good to identical results with the 68gr Honady Match BTHP bullets (I've shot/loaded both). The 75gr WILL NOT shoot well at all. Save your time, money, and barrel life and spend it on the 69gr SMK and 68gr Hornady Match BTHP....

[1Shot]

...Shot this 1 a few years back..lol.. 69gr Sie., 25grs. Varget, Lapua brs., 205M prs. .015 off..

...3/100...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/sqek/SMK.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/sqek/TN.jpg

[Dennis]

Any load data on the 52grn Bergers?

[1Shot]

Any load data on the 52grn Bergers?


,,,Berger 52's,,, OK... ;D.... 52gr Berger, 25grs VV-133, LC brs., CCI 400's .015 off..

,,,3/100,,,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v692/sqek/2.jpg

[quickkillaught6]

1shot you got an awesome avatar and a plethora of orange painted paper plates with what appears to be a small hole in them :)

[5spd]

My p-dog/coyote load since 1985 in my .223 FP10s & M12s has been 28g W748, 50g vmax, 2.280" col, 1/9" twist.
100yds is usually right at .380"-.610" according to my records.
I have taken it to 27.5 now with the same accuracy
Sierras 69g smk hp with 23.5g H335, 2.280" col will put them into .333" to .480" @ 100 yds in 3 of my .223s

[kschilling]

From 100 to 300 I run Hornady 75 gr BTHP with 25.5 gr of RL15 and 7 1/2 primers from a factory 1-9 twist barrel. However, from 300 to 1000 I run Berger 90 gr VLD with 28.0 grains of Alliant Power Pro 2000MR. I'm running the 90's out of a true 1-7 twist Shilen Select Match 28 in bull.....

[Armed in Utah]

The new 223 53 gr V max is way flatter than any 55 gr flat base

the 53 has a BC of .290 compared to .255 for the 55 V max

Now if Hornady would build a 50 V max for my 20's....

[darkker]

For that short of a distance I like 55gr bullets.
Start with 26.6gr of Win 748 and go up from there for groups. Most 223's I've had like that to 27gr

[hayboy]

Good ole 748 Works for me with 52 gr Bergers.

[MrMajestic]

75 gr. A-Max into the lands stoked by Varget or N140 in a Lapua case ignited by a 205M or BR4 primer. It will get you to 600 maybe further. 1/2 MOA in my Model 16.

[Larbike]

70 grain berger vld, 24 grains H4895, fed 205m primers. Shoots around 1inch at 300yds in my model 12 with 1x9 twist. Try it you'll like it ;D

[TORCHRIDER]

Thanks Guys. Loadin some up today to shoot this week. :-)

[Ring31]

300 aint that far... honestly the 69 is overkill.. and good and less expensive bullet will work.. the new hornady 53gr vmax has a higher BC then any 60gr made.. and cheep..


I may shoot further than 300. I have a 1000 yard range here, but typically use my VLRP in .223 with 1/7 twist to go longer distances.


You'd be wrong (and aparently don't have much 300yrd experience). If shooting under more than ideal conditions, I'd say it'd be a coin toss between the SMK and vmax - but then again, conditions are rarely ideal...

[1] The 69gr SMK is THE recommended Savage .223 bullet in their 1:9" twist barrels. Savage put a significant amount of testing into this and you'd be foolish to ignore that.
[2] The BC for the 69gr SMK is .301 (SC = 0.196 ) @ 2800+ fps (which will be necessary for 300yds) vs .290 BC for the vmax (at 3400fps).
BC = M/(d^2 * i) where M is the mass of the bullet in lb or kg, d is the diameter of the bullet in inches or meters and i is the drag coefficient or form factor
[3] Windage is much more manageable in the SMK (over the 53gr vmax)


While the Hornady 53gr vmax is a very good bullet, the SMK is superior at 300+ yds and a shoter will take EVERY advantage he/she can get.


the speed overcomes BC...

10mph 3oc wind chart
"its says 50gr, but its the 53 BC"

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5733/ballisticschart.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/ballisticschart.png/)

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[SMK Shoe]

Just got some good groups with Nosler 69 Cust Comp over 22.3 grains of IMR 8208 with fed match primers in Nosler brass. I had started at 21 grains and worked thru 23.7 grains. out of the 9 different loads only one was over 1/2 inch (23.7). Most groups were in the .3's and best was .152. Shot 22.3 again this morning and grouping stayed the same. I really like the 69 CC and not bad priced thru midway

[quickkillaught6]

25grains H4895 rem brass cci400 primers.

http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k493/onesolidbarr/3shot-69smksav-10200.png

[jhelmuth]

Well... Ballstic v2.5.6 showed the Hornady 53gr with an MV of 3300fps to have a wind chart drift of just over 12" at 300. So I don't know how those differ (as the 69gr SMK with an MV of 3000fps is not quite 10"). Guess it's just how the parameters are skewed?









300 aint that far... honestly the 69 is overkill.. and good and less expensive bullet will work.. the new hornady 53gr vmax has a higher BC then any 60gr made.. and cheep..


I may shoot further than 300. I have a 1000 yard range here, but typically use my VLRP in .223 with 1/7 twist to go longer distances.


You'd be wrong (and aparently don't have much 300yrd experience). If shooting under more than ideal conditions, I'd say it'd be a coin toss between the SMK and vmax - but then again, conditions are rarely ideal...

[1] The 69gr SMK is THE recommended Savage .223 bullet in their 1:9" twist barrels. Savage put a significant amount of testing into this and you'd be foolish to ignore that.
[2] The BC for the 69gr SMK is .301 (SC = 0.196 ) @ 2800+ fps (which will be necessary for 300yds) vs .290 BC for the vmax (at 3400fps).
BC = M/(d^2 * i) where M is the mass of the bullet in lb or kg, d is the diameter of the bullet in inches or meters and i is the drag coefficient or form factor
[3] Windage is much more manageable in the SMK (over the 53gr vmax)


While the Hornady 53gr vmax is a very good bullet, the SMK is superior at 300+ yds and a shoter will take EVERY advantage he/she can get.


the speed overcomes BC...

10mph 3oc wind chart
"its says 50gr, but its the 53 BC"

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5733/ballisticschart.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/ballisticschart.png/)

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