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nemhed
10-10-2011, 02:19 PM
As a brand new forum member, I like to say "Howdy" to all! Now on to the stupid question. Anyone care to guess how much weight I could trim off my Savage 10fp in .223 by taking the factory 24" heavy barrel down to 20". I'm looking to lighten up my primary coyote rifle and I'm still weighing (pun intended) my options. One other option would be to just go with a factory sporter barrel. Thanks!
chemist1
10-10-2011, 03:10 PM
I would go to savage's web site and look at a 10PC and a similar 24" model and check the weight difference. That should give you a ball park number.
nemhed
10-10-2011, 05:59 PM
I would go to savage's web site and look at a 10PC and a similar 24" model and check the weight difference. That should give you a ball park number.



Unfortunately Savage's site seems to be notoriously inaccurate on their weight specs for different models. ::)
sharpshooter
10-10-2011, 06:37 PM
About 5 oz.
keeki
10-10-2011, 07:13 PM
if its stainless its .76lbs or 12.16oz
keeki
10-10-2011, 07:39 PM
im sorry, i miss calculated. its .71lbs or 11.36oz. for 416 stainless, .715lbs or 11.44oz for 4142 chrome moly. thats how much 4" of barrel with diameter of .83" with a .224 bore weighs
ellobo
10-10-2011, 09:53 PM
nemhead,
Aint no sech things as a stupid question. but on the other hand they is answers. ;D

El Lobo
Cserv
10-10-2011, 10:05 PM
Not a stupid question, and you asked it someplace where you would get a good answer.
I however am looking to go in the other direction with my .223.
Good luck.
Eric
squirrelsniper
10-11-2011, 07:27 AM
The overall weight difference likely won't be noticed (or at least I can't notice it) while carrying the rifle. However, since the weight came off the end of the barrel, it does change the overall balance and handling quite a bit.

FWIW, I'm making this comparison based on a 10FP with a 24" barrel versus a 10FP with a 20" barrel.
sharpshooter
10-11-2011, 11:53 PM
im sorry, i miss calculated. its .71lbs or 11.36oz. for 416 stainless, .715lbs or 11.44oz for 4142 chrome moly. thats how much 4" of barrel with diameter of .83" with a .224 bore weighs

Not even close.......I just weighed some barrel cut offs. 5 oz for .750(predator hunter contour) and 8 oz for a varmint weight(.820).
keeki
10-12-2011, 12:54 AM
then one of our scales is broken.lol. are your cutoffs .223?
keeki
10-12-2011, 01:15 AM
416 stainless weighs .276lbs per cubic inch, 4142 chrome moly weighs .283 per cubic inch. Now all you have to do is figure how many cubic inches is in 4" of your barrel
sharpshooter
10-12-2011, 05:39 PM
You must be an engineer..... ;D
keeki
10-12-2011, 06:22 PM
nah, but I have driven a train before.lol. welder for 22 yrs and studied a little metallurgy.
jonbearman
10-13-2011, 03:07 PM
Before I would get to hackin the barrel off,take it apart and look to the aftermarket for a lighter composite stock.Some of stockades are really lite and I am sure he can give you the advice you seek. Also scopes vary widely in weight and mounts also.Find a way to not cut the barrel and I think you would be way better off.There are wood laminates that are lighter than some of the plastic ones,especially choate.Chote makes a rigid stock but they way in at 5.5 lbs on average.I have a stockade elk hunter thumbhole that weighs less than 2 pounds for instance. Look at it from a different angle first and do the research to make imformed end result conclusions so you dont do it twice like many of us have.
ellobo
10-13-2011, 09:05 PM
The old advice "Measure twice, cut once" applies to decisions like this. And I am an Engineer.

El Lobo
CaptNemo
10-13-2011, 11:17 PM
The old advice "Measure twice, cut once" applies to decisions like this. And I am an Engineer.

El Lobo


If you don't do it this way you end up with "I cut it twice and it's still too short"...
nemhed
10-25-2011, 01:28 PM
I appreciate the replies! Long story short, I don't think I'm going to trim as much weight off this rifle as I'd like just by lopping 4 inches off the barrel. I have purchased a factory sporter barrel and I'm replacing my old scope with one that weighs 10 oz. less. This should get me closer to the runnin' & gunnin' coyote gun that I envision. I'm kind of slow but I have learned that a 12 pound, 45" oal rifle is not what I want to drag around all day. ;)
MNbogboy
10-25-2011, 02:29 PM
I could be wrong but my old school "pi are squared math" puts sharpshooter a lot closer to the actual weight...
.83 OD tube with .224 ID hole thru it @ 4 long and .276 #/cu. in = approx. 8.9 ounces US.
.75 OD, .224 ID, 4 long = 7.1 ounces US
Take away the crown & taper weight and Sharpshooter is real close.....
Oh yeh I verified my math with solid modeling ;)
keeki
10-25-2011, 06:03 PM
Dang! Thats the first time Ive ever been wrong. :'( Ok second time. ;)