removing glossy sporter barrel

[bsekf]

Did you try the duct tape under the barrel blocks? Duct tape and WD40, the RedNeck tool box! ;D

If it is a factory recoil lug and you plan to replace it, clamp that in the vise and whack the wrench. I agree, the nut is locked against the action so things work better when you clamp the action. Sorry to hear about your scope base, this has been a learning experience ::)

[jinx-)]

I read some place that sometimes they hire gorilla to screw that barrel nut, I guess I can use gorilla tape to get it off ;D
I had this rifle for 5 years so its been trough rain and snow, but how much torque do I need to get this thing turned. I'm using wheeler wrench plus 1/2" 1 foot wrench with 2 foot galvanized pipe, that's like 4 feet extension...

[stangfish]

I have used a large adjustable wrench opened up to fit the action and used the lug up against the wrench flats to stop the action from turning. I put a leather piece on the action to preven marring...worked on every new action I have busted.

[jinx-)]

got scope base screws out and decided to give it a try with gorilla tape wrapped around the barrel, but still skidding, so I increased pressure on it with my bench vise and I heard a snap, wasn't the barrel nut, but my vise got jinxed ;D I knew those chinese made vises are no good, well got another thing on to buy list, new bench vise...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8718/benchvise.jpg

[Slowpoke Slim]

I did that once trying to use a bench vice to press in U-joints in a driveshaft.

It sounds like you're not using a hammer. Instead of using a long extension and trying to muscle off the barrel nut, you need to "shock" the nut to break it loose. That's the main principle behind an air or electric driven impact wrench. You need a "dead blow" hammer, put the wrench at an angle that makes it easy to whack. I usually place mine about perpendicular to the floor, then with both hands on the hammer handle, I come down with full force straight down with the hammer and strike the barrel nut wrench.

It works every time, and I've taken off several blued barrels. The blued ones are usually harder to get off, as the bluing salts and chemicals tend to migrate up the threads during the bluing process. You'll see what I mean when you look at the threads after you get it apart.

I wish you lived close enough for me to help out.

http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/slowpokeslim/Step4.jpg

I orient my wrench like this, then whack it near the end with the dead blow hammer.

http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/slowpokeslim/Step3.jpg

Before I put the action wrench on the receiver, I wrap the receiver in Scotch tape. This stops the action wrench from marring the finish.

http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/slowpokeslim/Step7.jpg

I clamp my action wrench in my bench vice. Locked in like this, there's no where for any of the shocking force to go, but straight into the barrel nut.

http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/slowpokeslim/Step8.jpg

Close up of the orientation of the action in the wrench.

http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/slowpokeslim/Tools2.jpg

The Wheeler action wrench needs a notch ground in it for the recoil lug key. I don't know why Wheeler doesn't notch them, but there you go. When you test fit the action wrench on the action, you'll see what needs to be notched. I used my Dremel tool, and it took just a couple minutes to do.

[bsekf]

Getting to be an expensive learning experience! Me and Bill Clinton "feel your pain". ;D

I spent $1K for equipment to make my own $40 Encore forearms.........makes sense to me.

[jinx-)]

I don't have action wrench, but I got new bench vise, got it installed on the bench, got barrel tighten between two block and I'm giving blow after blow, still no result barrel skids.

[Uncle Jack]

Have you tried soaking that puppy up with Kroil?

uj

[jinx-)]

Yes it had Kroil for 2 days now... Now I was using 2X4 to knuck on 1/2 extension wrench as the result my barrel nut wrench looks like this now...

http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3799/benchvise1.jpg

and 1/2 slot like this:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8981/benchvise2.jpg

and 2X4 just splintered in little pieces

[jinx-)]

What if I use torch to heat it up? It always worked on rusty old bolts and nuts...

[Eric in NC]

Get the vise/blocks tighter and use a 3 pound dead blow hammer (not rubber mallet but a shot filled dead blow).

[Slowpoke Slim]

looks like everything so easy, today I almost ripped my bench vise of the bench trying to get this thing loose, at the end I ripped my scope rail and now got bigger problem of getting those screws out which are seating on loctite. Had anyone did this before, I will need to drill them very carefully using drill press with reversible drill bit, then use appropriate Easy Out bit, hopefully I'll get them out, by that time I should have my action wrench...



I'm sorry, I thought this meant you had an action wrench on the way to you already. That was why I posted the pics.

I think at this point, you may as well just cut the nut off. If your barrel nut wrench looks like that, then your barrel nut is probably boogered up just as much. I think at this point you should be looking for a gunsmith. Even if you get the nut cut off, that doesn't necessarily mean that the barrel will then come free. If it doesn't, then you're REALLY stuck, and will HAVE to get an action wrench and a gunsmith quality barrel vise to put new barrel blocks in to get the barrel out.

I think before you do anything else, you need to get an action wrench, and a new barrel nut wrench, and a true DEAD BLOW (as in soft face, lead shot filled) hammer.

Then start over from scratch using these tools to get it off. If you don't want to keep the action wrench for future rifle builds, you can always sell it here in the classifieds, they sell lightning fast.

[jinx-)]

Action wrench is on its way, I just thought I can get it off without it... By hammering on the barrel nut wrench with deadly blow of 2X4, which is pine and soft material. By the way the bench vise I got today from tractor supply was defective, so I got another one from Lowes defective as well, both are made in china...
What bothers me the most, why it won't turn??? Is it welded somehow???

[jinx-)]

did some searching found interesting thread on sniper's hide forum, that guy had same problem and even broke his bench vise, but he got it of with the help of dremel, by cutting it...
https://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2078844

[Eric in NC]

Did that once before I learned that the dead blow hammer is the key to it. The 2x4, a 5 pound sledge, rubber mallet etc. don't cut it - a shot filled dead blow makes it look easy.

[jinx-)]

Touchdown!!! An old trick I used to get break calipers off, because of the salt in the winter bolts are corroded, nothing would get them off for the exception of propane torch and PB Blaster "PB Penetrating Catalyst", so with break calipers I had to heat them up and when they are hot spray them with BP Blaster, this stuff bubbles penetrating any rust, when everything cools down it was easy job to get bolts off. So I tried the old trick on Savage barrel nut as the result, here it is, I didn't use any hammering just pushed it with the ranch and extension:

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/2610/barnut.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7567/barnut1.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3373/barnut2.jpg

Well I learned it the hard way...

[teebirdhyzer]

nice! i am about to attempt my first barrel change and mine seems pretty stuck today too. By coincidence, i bougt some pb laster today as well to try. Did it harm the finish at all

[Slowpoke Slim]

Jinx,

I'm glad you got the nut off. You didn't say, but I assume that means the barrel is out too? Or is it still stuck in the receiver?

[dwm]

Congrats jinx, I was going to suggest you park your car on top of the barrel next. :o

[jinx-)]

Well, after barrel nut was loose, I removed receiver, then recoil lug then barrel nut and barrel remained in the vise. PB Blaster didn't harm finish, however my previous attempts did, like ripping scope basses off and nuking crap out the nut, but its an easy fix, just have to sanded and do some bluing.
I didn't have to park car on top of it, I have RR track 100 yards from my house :-))